Alexander de Berkeley1

M, #3421

Father*John de Barclay1
Alexander de Berkeley||p115.htm#i3421|John de Barclay||p114.htm#i3401||||Roger (?)|d. 1093|p114.htm#i3402|Rissa (?)||p114.htm#i3403|||||||

Marriage* 1 

Family
Child

Last Edited9 Mar 2003

Citations

  1. [S218] Marlyn Lewis, Ancestry of Elizabeth of York.

Ralph de Mar1

M, #3422

Father*William of Leuchars1,2
Ralph de Mar||p115.htm#i3422|William of Leuchars||p115.htm#i3425||||||||||||||||

Name Variation Nes2 

Family
Child

Last Edited27 Jul 2005

Citations

  1. [S218] Marlyn Lewis, Ancestry of Elizabeth of York.
  2. [S347] Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans, p. 209.

Hugh de Grantmesnil1

M, #3423, b. circa 1092

Father*Ivo (?)1 d. 1118
Mother*Anonyma de Gant1
Hugh de Grantmesnil|b. c 1092|p115.htm#i3423|Ivo (?)|d. 1118|p115.htm#i3426|Anonyma de Gant||p115.htm#i3427|Hugh Grantmesnil|b. b 1014\nd. 22 Feb 1094|p106.htm#i3160|Adeliza Beaumont|d. 11 Jul 1091|p106.htm#i3161|Gilbert de Gant|b. c 1034\nd. c 1095|p115.htm#i3428|Alice de Montfort|b. c 1038|p115.htm#i3429|

Birth*circa 1092 of Hinckley, Leicestershire, England1 
Marriage* 1 

Family
Child

Last Edited24 Oct 2003

Citations

  1. [S218] Marlyn Lewis, Ancestry of Elizabeth of York.

Saher de Quincey1

M, #3424

Name Variation Quincy2 

Family
Child

Last Edited27 Jul 2005

Citations

  1. [S218] Marlyn Lewis, Ancestry of Elizabeth of York.
  2. [S347] Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans, p. 209.

William of Leuchars1

M, #3425

Family
Child

Last Edited27 Jul 2005

Citations

  1. [S218] Marlyn Lewis, Ancestry of Elizabeth of York.
  2. [S347] Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans, p. 209.

Ivo (?)1

M, #3426, d. 1118

Father*Hugh Grantmesnil1 b. b 1014, d. 22 Feb 1094
Mother*Adeliza Beaumont1 d. 11 Jul 1091
Ivo (?)|d. 1118|p115.htm#i3426|Hugh Grantmesnil|b. b 1014\nd. 22 Feb 1094|p106.htm#i3160|Adeliza Beaumont|d. 11 Jul 1091|p106.htm#i3161|Robert de Grantmesnil|d. 1038|p149.htm#i4456|Hawise de Eschabr||p149.htm#i4457|Ivo I. (?)|d. a 16 Sep 1083|p129.htm#i3862|Judith (?)||p149.htm#i4463|

Marriage* Principal=Anonyma de Gant1 
Death*1118 on pilgrimage to Jerusalem1 
DNB* Grandmesnil [Grantmesnil], Ivo de (d. 1101/2), magnate, was the son of Hugh de Grandmesnil, lord of Leicester in England and Grandmesnil in Normandy, and Adeliza, daughter of Ivo de Beaumont-sur-Oise. Ivo followed Robert Curthose, duke of Normandy, on the first crusade in 1096, but gained discredit from his premature abandonment of the defence of Antioch. With his brothers William and Aubrey, he was among those disgraced as ‘rope-dancers’ for letting themselves down from the walls of the besieged city by night. When Hugh de Grandmesnil died in 1098, his estates were divided: the Norman lands went to the eldest son, Robert (II) de Grandmesnil (d. c.1136), while Ivo took those in England. These consisted of the town and castle of Leicester and a large block of estates in the south and west of the shire; there were other extensive holdings in Warwickshire and Northamptonshire. Ivo appears to have succeeded his father as sheriff of Leicestershire. He married a daughter of Gilbert de Gant, another midlands baron. However, his career as a baron was short-lived. In 1100 he chose to oppose the succession of Henry I in favour of his crusading captain, Robert Curthose, and in pursuit of the cause he devastated his neighbours' estates in the midlands. When in 1101 King Henry and Robert came to an amicable settlement at Alton, Ivo was exposed to the king's vengeance, despite the king's undertaking to pardon Robert's friends. Ivo was obliged to mortgage his lands to Robert de Beaumont, count of Meulan, the king's chief adviser, for 500 marks for fifteen years to clear a fine imposed on him. A marriage alliance between Ivo's son, also Ivo, and Count Robert's niece was to take place on the return of the lands. Ivo and his wife then set off on pilgrimage, but died en route in either 1101 or 1102.

The younger Ivo de Grandmesnil never received his inheritance, and in 1107 the king invested Count Robert as earl of Leicester, thus making the Grandmesnils' dispossession clear to all. Ivo and a brother were brought up in Henry I's court, and received from the king some favour, if no lands. Both died childless in 1120 in the wreck of the White Ship. By a curious coincidence, the honour of Grandmesnil in Normandy was also to come to Count Robert's descendants, when his grandson, Robert de Breteuil, earl of Leicester (d. 1190), married Petronilla de Grandmesnil granddaughter of Robert (II) de Grandmesnil.

David Crouch
Sources

Ordericus Vitalis, Eccl. hist. · D. Crouch, The Beaumont twins: the roots and branches of power in the twelfth century, Cambridge Studies in Medieval Life and Thought, 4th ser., 1 (1986) · C. W. Hollister, ‘The Anglo-Norman civil war, 1101’, EngHR, 88 (1973), 315–34
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David Crouch, ‘Grandmesnil , Ivo de (d. 1101/2)’, Oxford Dictionary of National Biography, Oxford University Press, 2004 [http://www.oxforddnb.com/view/article/14504, accessed 25 Sept 2005]

Ivo de Grandmesnil (d. 1101/2): doi:10.1093/ref:odnb/145042 

Family

Anonyma de Gant
Child

Last Edited25 Sep 2005

Citations

  1. [S218] Marlyn Lewis, Ancestry of Elizabeth of York.
  2. [S376] Unknown editor, unknown short title.

Anonyma de Gant1

F, #3427

Father*Gilbert de Gant1 b. c 1034, d. c 1095
Mother*Alice de Montfort1 b. c 1038
Anonyma de Gant||p115.htm#i3427|Gilbert de Gant|b. c 1034\nd. c 1095|p115.htm#i3428|Alice de Montfort|b. c 1038|p115.htm#i3429|Ralph de Gant|d. a 1058|p177.htm#i5282|Gisela of Luxembourg|d. a 1058|p177.htm#i5283|Hugh I. d. Montfort|d. a 1088|p177.htm#i5288|Alice d. Beaufort Montfort/|b. c 1014|p177.htm#i5289|

Marriage* Principal=Ivo (?)1 

Family

Ivo (?) d. 1118
Child

Last Edited1 Jun 2005

Citations

  1. [S218] Marlyn Lewis, Ancestry of Elizabeth of York.

Gilbert de Gant1

M, #3428, b. circa 1034, d. circa 1095

Father*Ralph de Gant1 d. a 1058
Mother*Gisela of Luxembourg1,2 d. a 1058
Gilbert de Gant|b. c 1034\nd. c 1095|p115.htm#i3428|Ralph de Gant|d. a 1058|p177.htm#i5282|Gisela of Luxembourg|d. a 1058|p177.htm#i5283|Adalbert d. Gant|d. 1032|p177.htm#i5284|Ermengarde o. F. Gant||p177.htm#i5285|Count Frederick I. of Luxembourg|b. c 965\nd. 6 Oct 1019|p191.htm#i5707|Ermentrude von Gleiberg||p191.htm#i5708|

Birth*circa 1034 1 
Marriage* Principal=Alice de Montfort1,3 
Death*circa 1095 1,4 
Burial* Bardney Abbey, Lincolnshire, England1 
Note*1066 England, probably arrived in England3 
Occupation*1068 York, Yorkshire, England, Commander of York3 
Note1069 York, Yorkshire, England, taken prisoner by the Danes3 
Event-Misc*1086 Folkingham, Lincolnshire, England, He was tenant-in-chief4 

Family

Alice de Montfort b. c 1038
Children

Last Edited1 Jun 2005

Citations

  1. [S218] Marlyn Lewis, Ancestry of Elizabeth of York.
  2. [S168] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots, 143-21.
  3. [S168] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots, 143-22.
  4. [S347] Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans, p. 103.

Alice de Montfort1

F, #3429, b. circa 1038

Father*Hugh II de Montfort1,2 d. a 1088
Mother*Alice de Beaufort Montfort/1 b. c 1014
Alice de Montfort|b. c 1038|p115.htm#i3429|Hugh II de Montfort|d. a 1088|p177.htm#i5288|Alice de Beaufort Montfort/|b. c 1014|p177.htm#i5289|Hugh d. Montfort|d. 1040 (MURDERED)|p177.htm#i5290|Alice Beamond Montfort/||p177.htm#i5291|Richard d. Beaufort|d. 1081|p241.htm#i7204|Emma d. Bayeau Beaufort/||p241.htm#i7205|

Birth*circa 1038 of Montfort-sur-Risle, France1 
Marriage* Principal=Gilbert de Gant1,2 

Family

Gilbert de Gant b. c 1034, d. c 1095
Children

Last Edited24 Oct 2003

Citations

  1. [S218] Marlyn Lewis, Ancestry of Elizabeth of York.
  2. [S168] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots, 143-22.
  3. [S347] Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans, p. 103.

Adelm de Burgh1

M, #3430

Father*William de Burgo de Moreton1,2 b. b 1084, d. a 1140
Mother*Isabel FitzRichard1
Adelm de Burgh||p115.htm#i3430|William de Burgo de Moreton|b. b 1084\nd. a 1140|p115.htm#i3433|Isabel FitzRichard||p115.htm#i3434|Robert de Burgo|b. c 1031\nd. 8 Dec 1090|p115.htm#i3435|Maud de Montgomerie||p115.htm#i3436|William FitzRichard||p115.htm#i3445||||

Marriage* Principal=Agnes (?)1 

Last Edited15 May 2005

Citations

  1. [S218] Marlyn Lewis, Ancestry of Elizabeth of York.
  2. [S342] Sir Bernard Burke, Extinct Peerages, p. 89.

Agnes (?)1

F, #3431

Marriage* Principal=Adelm de Burgh1 

Last Edited15 May 2005

Citations

  1. [S218] Marlyn Lewis, Ancestry of Elizabeth of York.

Richard I the Lionhearted1

M, #3432, b. 8 September 1157, d. 6 April 1199

 
 

Father*Henry II Curtmantel b. 5 Mar 1132/33, d. 6 Jul 1189; son and heir1,2,3
Mother*Eleanor of Aquitaine1,2,3 b. 1123, d. 31 Mar 1204
Richard I the Lionhearted|b. 8 Sep 1157\nd. 6 Apr 1199|p115.htm#i3432|Henry II Curtmantel|b. 5 Mar 1132/33\nd. 6 Jul 1189|p55.htm#i1622|Eleanor of Aquitaine|b. 1123\nd. 31 Mar 1204|p55.htm#i1623|Geoffrey V. "the Fair" Plantagenet|b. 24 Nov 1113\nd. 7 Sep 1151|p55.htm#i1624|Matilda Empress of England|b. 1104\nd. 10 Sep 1167|p55.htm#i1626|Count William V. of Poitou "the Pious"|b. 1099\nd. 9 Apr 1137|p95.htm#i2838|Eleanor de Chastellerault|b. c 1105\nd. a Mar 1130|p95.htm#i2839|

Birth*8 September 1157 Oxford, Oxfordshire, England1,2,3 
Engagement*1169 Principal=Alice of France (?)3 
Marriage*12 May 1191 Limasol, Cyprus, Principal=Berenguela of Navarre1,2,3 
Death*6 April 1199 Castle of Chalus, Limousin, France, (of crossbow wound during a siege)1,2,3 
Burial* Fontévrault Abbey, Fontévrault, Normandy, France1,2,3 
Dickens* 4
Hume* 5
Name Variation Richard Lionheart 
Name Variation Richard I Coeur de Lion3 
Name Variation Richard I Plantagenet 
Event-Misc*1169 Richard did homage to Louis VII for the ducy of Aquitaine, Principal=Louis VII of France "the Young"3 
Event-Miscbetween 1173 and 1174 He and his brothers rebelled against his father3 
Event-Miscfrom 1175 to 1177 He established his authority over Aquitaine, forcing the Count of Toulouse to do him homage3 
Event-Misc1177 Louis VII demanded that Richard marry Alice immediately. The matter was referred for arbitration., Principal=Louis VII of France "the Young"3 
Event-Misc*1183 Henry II demanded that Richard cede Aquitaine to his brother John, since Richard was now heir to England. This started up another war., Principal=Henry II Curtmantel3 
Event-Misc*1188 After some warfare, Richard did homage to Philip Augustus for his French posessions., Principal=Philip II Augustus (?)3 
King-England*3 September 1189 Westminster, Middlesex, England, Witness=William d' Evereux, Witness=Sir Richard de Clare, Witness=Sir Hamelin Plantagenet, Witness=John Lackland, Witness=David of Huntingdon, Witness=Reynold de Lucy, Witness=Sir William Marshal, Witness=Sir Waleran de Newburgh, Witness=Aubrey de Vere6,3,7,8 
Event-Misc*12 December 1189 He left England on Crusade2,3 
Event-Misc*1191 William Longespée was granted the Manor of Kirton, Lincolnshire by his brother King Richard I, Principal=Sir William Longespée9 
Event-Misc*1191 He was with Richard I at the siege of Acre, Principal=Robert Corbet10,11 
Event-Misc*March 1190/91 Richard voided his marriage with Alice, Principal=Alice of France (?)3 
Event-Misc13 March 1194 Richard returns to England after being ransomed from captivity by the Duke of Austria (whom he had insulted in the Holy Land), at great expense to his kingdom.3 

Last Edited4 Sep 2005

Citations

  1. [S218] Marlyn Lewis, Ancestry of Elizabeth of York.
  2. [S234] David Faris, Plantagenet Ancestry, Plantagenet 17.
  3. [S284] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry, Plantagenet 2.
  4. [S336] Charles Dickens, A Child's History of England.
  5. [S337] David Hume, History of England.
  6. [S284] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry, Warenne 2.
  7. [S284] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry, Plantagenet 3.
  8. [S347] Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans, p. 79.
  9. [S284] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry, Longespée 3.
  10. [S285] Leo van de Pas, 30 Jun 2004.
  11. [S347] Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans, p. 62.

William de Burgo de Moreton1

M, #3433, b. before 1084, d. after 1140

Father*Robert de Burgo1 b. c 1031, d. 8 Dec 1090
Mother*Maud de Montgomerie1
William de Burgo de Moreton|b. b 1084\nd. a 1140|p115.htm#i3433|Robert de Burgo|b. c 1031\nd. 8 Dec 1090|p115.htm#i3435|Maud de Montgomerie||p115.htm#i3436|Harlowen d. Burgo|b. c 1001\nd. c 1066|p115.htm#i3437|Arlette of Falais|b. c 1003|p60.htm#i1771|Roger de Montgomerie|b. b 1030\nd. 27 Jul 1094|p115.htm#i3438|Mabel Talvas|b. c 1015\nd. 2 Dec 1079|p115.htm#i3439|

Birth*before 1084 1 
Marriage* Principal=Isabel FitzRichard1 
Death*after 1140 1 
Title* Earl of Cornwall2 
Biography* He rebelled against Henry II, and died a prisoner, having had his eyes put out by Henry's order. His Earldom was given to Stephen of Blois2 

Family

Isabel FitzRichard
Children

Last Edited15 May 2005

Citations

  1. [S218] Marlyn Lewis, Ancestry of Elizabeth of York.
  2. [S342] Sir Bernard Burke, Extinct Peerages, p. 89.

Isabel FitzRichard1

F, #3434

Father*William FitzRichard1
Isabel FitzRichard||p115.htm#i3434|William FitzRichard||p115.htm#i3445||||||||||||||||

Marriage* Principal=William de Burgo de Moreton1 

Family

William de Burgo de Moreton b. b 1084, d. a 1140
Children

Last Edited15 May 2005

Citations

  1. [S218] Marlyn Lewis, Ancestry of Elizabeth of York.

Robert de Burgo1

M, #3435, b. circa 1031, d. 8 December 1090

Father*Harlowen de Burgo1,2 b. c 1001, d. c 1066
Mother*Arlette of Falais1,3 b. c 1003
Robert de Burgo|b. c 1031\nd. 8 Dec 1090|p115.htm#i3435|Harlowen de Burgo|b. c 1001\nd. c 1066|p115.htm#i3437|Arlette of Falais|b. c 1003|p60.htm#i1771|John d. Bourg||p115.htm#i3440||||Fulbert of Falais|b. c 970|p60.htm#i1772|Doda (?)||p122.htm#i3647|

Birth*circa 1031 Normandy, France1,4 
Marriage*before 1066 Principal=Maud de Montgomerie1,4 
Marriage* Principal=Almodis de la Marche1 
Death*8 December 1090 1,5 
Burial* Abbey of Gestain1 
Death1095 4 
Title* Earl of Cornwall1 
Note* Mabel was granddaughter of Robert de Mortain, Earl of Cornwall, Principal=Mabel FitzWilliam6 
Name Variation Robert de Mortaine4 
(William) Battle-Hastings14 October 1066 Hastings, Sussex, England, Principal=William I of Normandy "the Conqueror", Principal=Harold II Godwinson7,8,9,10,2,11,12,13 
Event-Misc*1069 Robert d'Eu and Robert, count of Mortain, defeated the Danes at Lindsey, Principal=Robert d' Eu14 

Family

Maud de Montgomerie
Children

Last Edited10 Jul 2005

Citations

  1. [S218] Marlyn Lewis, Ancestry of Elizabeth of York.
  2. [S342] Sir Bernard Burke, Extinct Peerages, p. 89.
  3. [S347] Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans, p. 183.
  4. [S168] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots, 185-1.
  5. [S338] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots, 8th ed., 185-1.
  6. [S338] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots, 8th ed., 121-26.
  7. [S338] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots, 8th ed., 50-23.
  8. [S338] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots, 8th ed., 270-24.
  9. [S342] Sir Bernard Burke, Extinct Peerages, p. 42.
  10. [S285] Leo van de Pas, 30 Jun 2004.
  11. [S347] Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans, p. 38.
  12. [S347] Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans, p. 94.
  13. [S347] Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans, p. 142.
  14. [S347] Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans, p. 77.
  15. [S338] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots, 8th ed., 55-26.

Maud de Montgomerie1

F, #3436

Father*Roger de Montgomerie1,2 b. b 1030, d. 27 Jul 1094
Mother*Mabel Talvas1,2 b. c 1015, d. 2 Dec 1079
Maud de Montgomerie||p115.htm#i3436|Roger de Montgomerie|b. b 1030\nd. 27 Jul 1094|p115.htm#i3438|Mabel Talvas|b. c 1015\nd. 2 Dec 1079|p115.htm#i3439|Roger I. de Montgomery|d. b 7 Feb 1056|p115.htm#i3441|Joscelina de Torfulus|b. c 975\nd. a 1068|p115.htm#i3442|William I. Talvas|d. bt 1060 - 1070|p115.htm#i3443|Hildeburg (?)|d. c 1067|p115.htm#i3444|

Birth* of Montaigne, Sud-Mnch, France1 
Marriage*before 1066 Principal=Robert de Burgo1,2 
Burial* Abbey of Gastain1 
Name Variation Montgomery2 

Family

Robert de Burgo b. c 1031, d. 8 Dec 1090
Children

Last Edited24 Oct 2003

Citations

  1. [S218] Marlyn Lewis, Ancestry of Elizabeth of York.
  2. [S168] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots, 185-1.

Harlowen de Burgo1

M, #3437, b. circa 1001, d. circa 1066

Father*John de Bourg1
Harlowen de Burgo|b. c 1001\nd. c 1066|p115.htm#i3437|John de Bourg||p115.htm#i3440||||Count Baldwin I. of Flanders "the Bald"|b. c 865\nd. 2 Jan 918|p161.htm#i4805|Ethelwida o. E. (?)|b. c 877\nd. 7 Jun 929|p161.htm#i4806|||||||

Birth*circa 1001 2 
Marriage* 2nd=Arlette of Falais1,2,3 
Death*circa 1066 2 
Deathafter 1087 1 
Burial* Grestain Abbey, Grestain, France1 
Name Variation Herluin de Conteville3 
Note* He founded Grestain Abbey2 

Family

Arlette of Falais b. c 1003
Children

Last Edited10 Jul 2005

Citations

  1. [S218] Marlyn Lewis, Ancestry of Elizabeth of York.
  2. [S285] Leo van de Pas, 30 Jun 2004.
  3. [S347] Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans, p. 183.
  4. [S342] Sir Bernard Burke, Extinct Peerages, p. 88.
  5. [S342] Sir Bernard Burke, Extinct Peerages, p. 89.

Roger de Montgomerie1

M, #3438, b. before 1030, d. 27 July 1094

Father*Roger I de Montgomery2 d. b 7 Feb 1056
Mother*Joscelina de Torfulus1 b. c 975, d. a 1068
Roger de Montgomerie|b. b 1030\nd. 27 Jul 1094|p115.htm#i3438|Roger I de Montgomery|d. b 7 Feb 1056|p115.htm#i3441|Joscelina de Torfulus|b. c 975\nd. a 1068|p115.htm#i3442|Roger Montgomery|d. c 1040|p162.htm#i4844||||Touroude de Pont-Audemer|b. c 949\nd. a 1040|p160.htm#i4796|Dulcelina d. Crepon|b. c 942|p162.htm#i4846|

Birth*before 1030 1 
Marriage*1048 Bride=Mabel Talvas1,3 
Death*27 July 1094 Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England1,3 
Title* seigneur de Montgomery and vicomte of the Hiesmois2 
DNB* Montgomery, Roger de, first earl of Shrewsbury (d. 1094), soldier and magnate, came from St Germain de Montgommeri and St Foy de Montgommeri (modern French usage prefers Montgommery) near Troarn in Calvados, in an area between Caen and Rouen where place names suggest intensive Scandinavian settlement: in a charter to Troarn Abbey of as late as c.1080 Roger proudly described himself as a Norseman of Norsemen—‘ex Northmannis Northmannus’ (Round, no. 465).
A loyal servant in ducal Normandy
Roger de Montgomery's father was also Roger, whose tenure of lands round the lower reaches of the River Dives can be traced to Duke Robert (I)'s time (1027–35), and his mother (still alive in 1068) may have been called Emma. The elder Roger's descent is among the most problematical of all the connections of the Duchess Gunnor, second wife of Duke Richard (I) (d. 996), who were so prominent in the landed aristocracy of eleventh- and twelfth-century Normandy and England. However, the problem is soluble in his case by acceptance of the outline genealogy given at the end of a letter written a century later by Ivo, bishop of Chartres, to prevent a marriage within the prohibited degrees of a descendant of Earl Roger's daughter Mabel. According to this, one of Gunnor's sisters (Wevie, not Senfrie) herself had a daughter, Joscelina, who married c.990–1000 Hugh de Montgommeri (of whom otherwise nothing is known) and was mother by him of Earl Roger's father. Whatever the exact relationship to the dukes, who hoped to find Gunnor's kin more loyal supporters than members of the ducal house itself, the elder Roger was a leading member (1033) of Duke Robert's administration as vicomte of the Hièmois. Under Robert's son William, the younger Roger (according to Orderic Vitalis) eventually held the same position and was a frequent witness of ducal acta (usually after his kinsman William fitz Osbern but once immediately before him). The two made their mark as youths (tirones) by loyalty to the equally youthful duke at the siege of Domfront (of uncertain date but perhaps 1051–2).

Probably about 1050, the younger Roger had married Mabel de Bellême (d. 1077), daughter of Guillaume Talvas and ultimately heiress of Bellême, on the south-eastern frontier of the duchy. His reputation in the duchy was made by his success in enforcing his wife's rights as heiress, thus showing that constant activity on a borderland which his overlord was to require of him elsewhere after 1066. Mabel, however, was hostile to the monastery of St Evroult, in the Pays d'Ouche, as a result of the Talvas feud with the family of Giroie, benefactors of St Evroult; and this hostility gained for her the strong dislike of the historian Orderic Vitalis, a monk of St Evroult, who, though a prime source for her husband, Roger, never concealed his distaste for Roger's violent and aggressive wife, as Orderic (rightly) thought her. In Roger himself, however, Orderic found much to praise: his benefactions to St Evroult, his expulsion from Troarn of the secular canons established there by his father and his foundation of an abbey in their place, his foundation of the nunnery at Alménêches, and his foundation, with Mabel, of a priory at Sées in the sphere of influence of Mabel's family.
Lordships in Anglo-Norman England
In the years before 1066 Roger de Montgomery extended his influence in the Hièmois and the Alençonnais; his career culminated, in the duchy at least, in his appointment as adviser (with Roger de Beaumont, (d. in or after 1090)) to Duchess Matilda in the government of Normandy during Duke William's invasion of England (1066–7). Hence neither Roger himself nor his teenage elder sons were present at Hastings. When King William returned to England in November 1067 after his visit to Normandy, Roger returned with him, and grants to him of lands in England quickly followed. Orderic says twice that this happened in two stages: Roger received first Arundel and Chichester, and afterwards Shropshire. With responsibilities on both the south coast and the Welsh border, Roger was thus put in the same position as that already held by his kinsman and associate William fitz Osbern (in the Isle of Wight and Herefordshire), and by no one else. By Arundel and Chichester are meant the rapes in west Sussex of those two titles, but not the earldom of Arundel, which Roger de Montgomery never held; the grant must be dated to 1067–8 and Roger may temporarily have held somewhat more land than the two rapes covered in Domesday Book. The grant to Roger of most of Shropshire probably followed in 1070–71, after the revolt and defeat of Earl Eadwine of Mercia. Fairly soon afterwards Roger was made earl of Shrewsbury, thus becoming one of two vicomtes from Normandy who in England received the higher title of earl, the other being Hugh d'Avranches who became earl of Chester. The date of Roger's creation was long thought to be 1071, but L. C. Loyd deduced from charters that it took place between 1 and 24 December 1074. More recently, however, C. P. Lewis has argued for 1068 as the date of Roger's creation as earl, perhaps even of the grant of Shropshire lands. There is no warrant for describing Roger's comital status as ‘palatine’.

Roger de Montgomery's eminence is reflected in the fact that among his vassals were a dozen men who were themselves tenants-in-chief of varying levels of endowment. His sixty or so tenants in Sussex included very few tenants-in-chief and, with one important exception, do not seem to have followed him to Shropshire, where, however, his vassals included no fewer than eleven tenants-in-chief. Three of these, in the south of the county, had probably secured a footing in Herefordshire before Roger's advent; further north there were three others from much further afield, among them one kinsman of Roger (William de Warenne) who was himself nearly as well endowed as Roger himself. Perhaps even Roger was running out of followers of his own to whom he could enfeoff his estates.

Curiously, men connected with Roger de Montgomery in Normandy are found not so much in Sussex (where his Domesday tenants are seldom given toponymic or patronymic descriptions), as in Shropshire. It was three of these who were enfeoffed by the earl with fairly compact holdings on the border with the Welsh of Powys: north of the Severn, Warin and then Reinaud de Bailleul-en-Gouffern, successive husbands of the earl's niece Amieria and also successive sheriffs of Shropshire, held manors in Ruesset hundred between the Severn and Cheshire, notably Oswestry with its new castle, Luvre (L'oeuvre), built by Reinaud; Corbet, possibly from the Pays de Caux, was installed in the broken country south of the river round Caus and Longden; and Picot de Sai, from near Argentan, in the valleys of the Clun and Onny rivers. (A similar eye for country had been shown in west Sussex: of Roger's leading tenants there, Robert fitz Tetbald, sheriff of the rape of Arundel, held over thirty manors north of the Downs, including Pulborough, which commanded an important ford over the marshy Arun; and William de Ansleville, perhaps from Valognes in the Cotentin, held about half of that number south of the Downs, some of them straddling the line of Stane Street, which led from Chichester to London.) Of 230 hides held by the earl in the Shropshire border hundreds, 196 were held by these three vassals, whose descendants or representatives were dominant in western Shropshire for some centuries.
Wealth and power on the Shropshire march
In the valley of the Severn, Roger de Montgomery had three main centres of power and administration. The selection of Shrewsbury itself, in the middle of the county, as the site of a castle had been made before the arrival of the earl. Further up the Severn, Roger, possibly before 1073, began the construction of the Hen Domen (‘the old mound’) near the ford at Rhydwhiman, 2 miles from Montgomery. This timber castle was to have a life of over a century and shows how durable and complex such a wooden fortress might be, with its first-floor hall, large granary, and about seventy other buildings. In the south-east of the county, Roger had in 1086 a new house (nova domus) at Quatford, built on the first eminence commanding a ford over the Severn in Shropshire on the approach from the south. The earl's interest in his final years in this corner of his earldom is also evidenced by the story of his foundation nearby of Quatford church, allegedly (though the tale follows a well-known pattern) at the spot where he met his second wife on her coming to Shropshire.

From his forward base at Montgomery, supported by the vassals who held border tenancies behind him, Earl Roger was well placed to harry the Welsh. The versions of the Welsh Brut state two facts about Roger: that he ill-treated the Welsh, and that he began a castle at ‘Dingeraint’ (Cardigan). The castle may have resulted from one of the expeditions of ‘Franci’ dispatched by Roger in 1073 or 1074, or more probably from his last thrust in 1093. The earl aimed to control the Welsh of Powys by a steady penetration along the upper valleys of the Dee and Severn. In the north, the commotes of Cynllaith and Edeyrnion bordering the Dee were by 1086 subject to Roger's sheriff, and nephew by marriage, Reinaud, the castellan of Oswestry. The tenure of the nearby commote of Ial by the earl of Chester as Earl Roger's vassal is among the evidence that the Normans could co-operate with each other in these efforts. Roger himself held Arwystli in the very centre of Wales, through which ran the main lines of approach to the Welsh coast at Aberystwyth and Cardigan; and his forces once went even further afield, when his sheriff Warin led a raid into Lly^n.

Earl Roger's extensive lands were administered with the help of a number of officials. There appear to have been three distinct sets of these, one in Normandy, one in Sussex, and one in Shropshire. He had a sheriff in Sussex; and in Shropshire another sheriff, probably a steward, a landless constable, two huntsmen, and a butler, each of the last three holding (as though in conformity with the rules of some unknown establishment) tenancies assessed at 10 hides. The earl was served by various clerks (including those in the castle chapels of Arundel and Shrewsbury) and by others, including Odelerius, who was the father of the historian Orderic Vitalis, and, probably, Richard de Belmeis, who was to be in effect the successor in Shropshire of Roger's two eldest sons.

Roger de Montgomery was forward-looking in the economic exploitation of his lands: for instance he founded bourgs in Normandy and new towns in Shropshire, brought French burgesses to Shrewsbury, and exploited his demesnes profitably. In consequence he and his sons had at their disposal considerable amounts of cash, and could employ large numbers of knights, import horses, and pay the fines demanded by kings.

In England, Earl Roger's major ecclesiastical benefactions were limited to Shropshire; in Sussex he granted manors to Norman houses, notably to his own foundation of Alménêches. In Shropshire, probably with the aid of monks from La Charité sur Loire, he refounded (c.1079–82) the existing well-endowed minster of secular clerks at Much Wenlock as a Cluniac priory. In 1083 he publicly and ceremoniously announced his intention to found a Benedictine abbey at Shrewsbury itself, on the site of the wooden church of St Peter and St Paul, just east of the English bridge; this church was then held by Odelerius. Work was begun on a new stone church and two monks from Sées were brought in to begin the new foundation, which was endowed with the churches of Roger's Shropshire demesne manors and two-thirds of the tithes of his demesnes in the county. Lastly, Roger founded a collegiate church at Quatford as a companion foundation to his new house and borough there; the church was dedicated at an impressive ceremony in 1086. At Montgomery, with its more exposed site, the earl did not set up a new religious house.
The richest tenant-in-chief of William I and William II
His lands in west Sussex and Shropshire, with a number in ten other scattered counties (especially in Staffordshire), made Roger de Montgomery one of the eleven best-endowed tenants-in-chief of William I in 1086. By C. W. Hollister's calculations of the figures given in Domesday Book, the total annual value of Earl Roger's honour at that date (£2078) was exceeded only by that of the honour of Odo of Bayeux, the Conqueror's half-brother, and the value of the estates still held in demesne by Roger in that year (£1031) was greater, often considerably greater, than that still held in demesne by Odo himself or by any other of William's greatest non-ecclesiastical tenants-in-chief. As Odo had been in disgrace since 1082, Roger thus disposed of more landed wealth than anyone in England after the Conqueror, and was therefore a key figure in any alignment of political forces.

Earl Roger spent the last fifteen years of the Conqueror's reign on his estates in England, at the king's court in England and Normandy, and on the affairs of Wales. The death of William I posed for Roger the same conflict of loyalties as it did for many of the Anglo-Norman baronage: in his case, Orderic Vitalis says that William I and his son William Rufus had an affection for both the earl and Mabel, but also that Roger was among those who pleaded with the Conqueror on behalf of the king's eldest son, Robert Curthose. In 1088 the earl was openly in rebellion against Rufus, as were some of his sons; Roger joined at the persuasion of Rufus's uncles, Odo of Bayeux and Robert de Mortain, who was the earl's son-in-law (and contemporary). Orderic implies that the conspiracy was hatched in Normandy and that Roger then crossed to England. He soon went over to Rufus, probably because his eldest son, Robert de Bellême, who had been assigned a chief place in the plot, had been arrested by Duke Robert; with Rufus's permission Roger rushed to Normandy to fortify his own castles against the duke. Roger's efforts on his son's behalf were successful and he resumed support of the king. Rufus wisely imposed no penalty on Roger, who was taken back into favour; so too, at about that time, was his third son, Roger the Poitevin [see below]. In 1093 the earl dispatched another raid into west Wales; and at the very end of that year he was again at court. The final scenes took place at Shrewsbury Abbey, which Roger had founded. Here, as death approached, he took the monastic habit and here he died, on 27 July 1094, probably in his mid-sixties; he was buried ‘between the altars’, in a fine tomb which no longer survives.

Orderic Vitalis once, when first noting Earl Roger's rise in England, pauses to record his merits: ‘sapiens et moderatus et amator aequitatis fuit, et comitatem sapientium atque modestorum dilexit’ (‘a wise and prudent man and lover of justice, who loved the company of learned and sober men’; Ordericus Vitalis, Eccl. hist., 2.262–3) . This was admittedly a prelude to recording the earl's reliance on Orderic's own father, but he goes on to note Roger's wise choices of men for positions of authority and command. Orderic allows a conclusion that Roger was (despite problems) uxorious and that he cared for the interests of his children. R. W. Eyton caught up Orderic's first words on Roger, whom he called ‘wise and politic’ (Eyton, 2.191). H. F. M. Prescott, the only novelist to use Roger in a novel (Son of Dust, 1938), stresses the earl's loyalty; in this regard wisdom deserted him only once, in 1088, but his position, connections, and past services were such that prudence dictated that no penalty could be imposed. Alone of all the Conqueror's vassals, Roger de Montgomery gave his name to a British county, appropriately in Wales.
Wives and younger sons
Earl Roger's first wife, Mabel de Bellême, has been depicted unforgettably for posterity by Orderic Vitalis, though that historian never saw her. He describes her as ‘a forceful and worldly woman, cunning, garrulous, and extremely cruel’, ‘a perfidious woman’, and ‘a cruel woman, who had shed the blood of many and had forcibly disinherited many lords’ (Ordericus Vitalis, Eccl. hist., 2.48–9; 3.134–7); and he recounts several stories to her discredit related to him by colleagues at St Evroult. Whatever allowances can be made for Mabel there must have been something particularly aggressive and brutal about her for four of her vassals to ride at night into her castle at Bures [-sur-Dives] and cut off her head as she lay in bed after a bath (Chibnall, 107–8). Her murderer Hugh Bunel was among those whom she had disinherited and was never caught. The date of the murder must be December 1077, not 1082 as long accepted from a marginal note in the editio princeps of Orderic. There is evidence that Mabel, like a very few other baronial wives, was a tenant-in-chief in England, but no evidence that she ever visited that land or the Montgomery estates there.

Roger quickly remarried, probably by 1080; his second wife was the high-born Adelais du Puiset from the Île-de-France, who survived him. Orderic naturally made the most of the differences between Mabel and Adelais; he could have added that Adelais (admittedly in a much later account) did come to England, indeed to Shropshire, where she was the cause not of disinheritance but of the foundation of a church, and where probably she witnessed a land-grant of 1085 by the bishop of Hereford.

Orderic gives Roger and Mabel five sons and four daughters, and lists the sons first, as Robert de Bellême, Hugh de Montgomery, Roger the Poitevin, Philip [see below], and Arnulf de Montgomery. Robert, Hugh, and Roger attested a charter in that order; but Orderic's list omits the eldest son, also Roger, who attested a Le Mans charter as Rogerio parvulo and presumably lived a few years; on his death a younger brother was given his baptismal name.

Roger the Poitevin (b. c.1065, d. before 1140), the third surviving son of Earl Roger and Mabel, was probably born in the mid-1060s. In Domesday Book he appears as Roger the Poitevin (Pictavensis), by reason of his marriage, made on his father's advice, to Almodis, sister of Boso (III), count of La Marche (d. 1091); but the Domesday entries for his large honour present problems. In five counties (Hampshire, Nottinghamshire, Lincolnshire, Essex, and Suffolk) he is entered as a normal tenant-in-chief; but in four others (the land between the Ribble and the Mersey, Derbyshire, Yorkshire, and Norfolk) his tenure is entered as a thing of the past: thus at the end of his Derbyshire fee is a note that Roger used to hold the lands, but they are now in the hand of the king. This and other entries suggest that Roger's lands were all ordered to be taken into the king's hand late in 1086, but that in some cases the order was not known locally in time to be recorded in Domesday, or recorded in full. In view of his age, Roger cannot have held this honour for long; why he should so soon have lost it, at a time when as far as is known he and his father were loyal to the Conqueror, is not stated. The land between the Ribble and the Mersey was later enlarged to become modern Lancashire. By 1086 Roger had installed a body of tenants and built a castle at Penwortham, at a crossing of the Ribble which might be used by an invading king of Scots; at Lancaster he later founded a priory with the aid of monks from his parents' foundation at Sées.

Roger the Poitevin may have joined the revolt of 1088 against William Rufus, but if so soon made his peace; Rufus restored all or most of the honour which Roger held before Domesday and soon added to it the honour of Eye (mainly in East Anglia), previously held by Robert Malet. Rufus entrusted him with two demanding tasks: a military command in 1088 against William of St Calais, bishop of Durham, with whom Roger also negotiated on the king's behalf before the bishop came to trial, and in 1094 the defence of Argentan. Roger's quick surrender of the town to Philippe I of France, despite the size of his own forces, has been thought ‘pathetic’, but is explained if the French king was then his direct overlord. Roger continued loyal to Rufus, but in 1102 joined, ineffectively, his eldest brother's unsuccessful rebellion against Henry I. In consequence he was expelled from England, which he visited again only in 1109. The rest of his life was spent in the politics of La Marche; his sons bore names (Aldebert, Boso) which do not appear in the Montgomery family tree. Roger died before 1140.

Earl Roger's fourth surviving son, Philip de Montgomery (d. 1097/8), was presumably named after King Philippe of France. He is variously styled clericus and grammaticus (‘the grammarian’) by Orderic Vitalis, but for some years at least was destined for a secular career: he joined his two eldest brothers in confirming a paternal grant, and in another charter is described as the holder of an island in Normandy. He may have supported Robert Curthose in 1088, being indeed imprisoned, according to John of Worcester, and followed him on the first crusade, dying at Antioch, presumably in 1097 or 1098. He was the only son of Earl Roger to die while actually serving Curthose. It is not known whether he ever married, but his daughter Matilda succeeded her aunt Emma as abbess of Alménêches in 1113.

Orderic's list of four daughters of Roger and Mabel follows that of their brothers, in an order which is probably that of their birth: Emma (d. 1113), a nun at and later (perhaps as early as c.1074, when she was probably in her early twenties) abbess of her father's foundation at Alménêches; Matilda (d. 1082×4), who married before 1066 the Conqueror's half-brother Robert de Mortain; Mabel, who married Hugues de Châteauneuf-en-Thymerais; and Sybil, who married Robert fitz Hamon from south Wales.

With his second wife Earl Roger had one son, Ebrard, who was described by Orderic Vitalis, writing in 1127, as well educated and as among the royal chaplains in the households of William II and Henry I. If Ebrard served Rufus he was probably born soon after his parents' marriage; but his tentative identification with the Everard, or Eborard (d. 1147), who became bishop of Norwich in 1121 seems most unlikely.

J. F. A. Mason
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J. F. A. Mason, ‘Montgomery, Roger de, first earl of Shrewsbury (d. 1094)’, Oxford Dictionary of National Biography, Oxford University Press, 2004 [http://www.oxforddnb.com/view/article/23953, accessed 24 Sept 2005]

Roger de Montgomery (d. 1094): doi:10.1093/ref:odnb/23953
Roger the Poitevin (b. c.1065, d. before 1140): doi:10.1093/ref:odnb/23954
Philip de Montgomery (d. 1097/8): doi:10.1093/ref:odnb/220984 
Name Variation Montgomery2 
Event-Miscbetween 1045 and 1048 He issued a charter for Jumieges2 
Event-Misc*1048 He accompanied Duke William on the expedition against Domfront and Alencon2 
Event-Miscbetween 1050 and 1059 He founded the Abbey of St. martin de Troarn, and replaced his father's canons with Benedictine monks2 
Event-Misc1066 He assisted the Duchess with governing Normandy while William was away invading England2 
Event-MiscDecember 1067 He was with King William in England2 
Event-MiscWhitsuntide 1068 He was present at court in England2 
Event-Misc1079 He assisted in the reconciliation of William I and his son Robert Curthose2 
Event-Miscbetween 1079 and 1080 He pushed for peace between William and Fulk of Anjou2 
Event-Misc1083 Roger FitzCorbet witnessed a charter by Roger de Montgomery to Shrewsbury Abbey, Principal=Roger FitzCorbet5 
Event-Miscbefore 1086 He built the Castle of Montgomery2 
Event-Misc1086 Staffordshire, Rainald was a Domesday tenant of Roger de Montgomery (Earl of Shrewsbury) in Staffordshire, Principal=Reginald de Bailleul6 
Event-Misc1088 When Robert Curthose pressed his claim to the throne, Roger initially seemed to side with Robert, but King William won him over by summer. Roger's sons held the castle of Rochester for Robert.2 
Event-Misc25 December 1093 Gloucester, He witnessed a royal charter2 

Family

Mabel Talvas b. c 1015, d. 2 Dec 1079
Children

Last Edited24 Sep 2005

Citations

  1. [S218] Marlyn Lewis, Ancestry of Elizabeth of York.
  2. [S347] Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans, p. 162.
  3. [S168] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots, 185-1.
  4. [S376] Unknown editor, unknown short title.
  5. [S347] Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans, p. 61.
  6. [S341] Lewis C. Loyd, Anglo-Norman Families, p.11.
  7. [S347] Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans, p. 163.

Mabel Talvas1

F, #3439, b. circa 1015, d. 2 December 1079

Father*William II Talvas1,2 d. bt 1060 - 1070
Mother*Hildeburg (?)1 d. c 1067
Mabel Talvas|b. c 1015\nd. 2 Dec 1079|p115.htm#i3439|William II Talvas|d. bt 1060 - 1070|p115.htm#i3443|Hildeburg (?)|d. c 1067|p115.htm#i3444|William de Talvas|d. a 1031|p162.htm#i4847|Matilda (?)||p162.htm#i4848|Arnoul (?)||p162.htm#i4849||||

Birth*circa 1015 Alencon, Bell, France1 
Marriage*1048 1st=Roger de Montgomerie1,2 
Death*2 December 1079 Chateau de Bures-sur-Dives, France, |She was murdered by Hugh de la Roche d'Igé, (whom she had deprived of a castle), who burst into her chamber while she was lying in bed after a bath, and cut off her head with his sword.1,3 
Burial*5 December 1079 Abbey of Traorn, Eure, France1 
Name Variation Mabel de Belleme4 

Family

Roger de Montgomerie b. b 1030, d. 27 Jul 1094
Children

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Citations

  1. [S218] Marlyn Lewis, Ancestry of Elizabeth of York.
  2. [S168] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots, 185-1.
  3. [S347] Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans, p. 23.
  4. [S347] Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans, p. 162.
  5. [S347] Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans, p. 163.

John de Bourg1

M, #3440

Father*Count Baldwin II of Flanders "the Bald"1 b. c 865, d. 2 Jan 918
Mother*Ethelwida of England (?)1 b. c 877, d. 7 Jun 929
John de Bourg||p115.htm#i3440|Count Baldwin II of Flanders "the Bald"|b. c 865\nd. 2 Jan 918|p161.htm#i4805|Ethelwida of England (?)|b. c 877\nd. 7 Jun 929|p161.htm#i4806|Count Baldwin I. of Flanders "Bras de Fer"|d. 879|p172.htm#i5145|Judith of France|b. c 844\nd. a 870|p172.htm#i5146|Alfred of England "The Great"|b. 849\nd. 26 Oct 899|p56.htm#i1651|Ealhswith Of Mercia Alswitha|b. c 852\nd. 904|p56.htm#i1652|

Marriage* 1 

Family
Children

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Citations

  1. [S218] Marlyn Lewis, Ancestry of Elizabeth of York.

Roger I de Montgomery1

M, #3441, d. before 7 February 1056

Father*Roger Montgomery2 d. c 1040
Roger I de Montgomery|d. b 7 Feb 1056|p115.htm#i3441|Roger Montgomery|d. c 1040|p162.htm#i4844||||Roger de Montgomery||p162.htm#i4850||||||||||

Marriage* Principal=Joscelina de Torfulus1 
Death*before 7 February 1056 2 
Title* seigneur de Montgomery and vicomte of the Hiesmois1 
Event-Miscbetween 1028 and 1035 He restored the marked at Vimoutiers to the monks of the Abbey of jumieges, as he had taken it from them earlier1 
Event-Misc*1031 He witnessed a charter of Robert I, Duke of Normandy, for the abbey of St. Wandrille1 
Event-Misc During the troubles of Duke William's minority, Roger's son William murdered Osbern, William's guardian, and Roger was exiled to Paris on that account1 

Family

Joscelina de Torfulus b. c 975, d. a 1068
Children

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Citations

  1. [S347] Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans, p. 162.
  2. [S218] Marlyn Lewis, Ancestry of Elizabeth of York.

Joscelina de Torfulus1

F, #3442, b. circa 975, d. after 1068

Father*Touroude de Pont-Audemer1 b. c 949, d. a 1040
Mother*Dulcelina de Crepon1 b. c 942
Joscelina de Torfulus|b. c 975\nd. a 1068|p115.htm#i3442|Touroude de Pont-Audemer|b. c 949\nd. a 1040|p160.htm#i4796|Dulcelina de Crepon|b. c 942|p162.htm#i4846|Torf de Harcourt|d. a 955|p160.htm#i4798|Eremburga d. B. (?)|b. c 930|p160.htm#i4799|||||||

Birth*circa 975 Ponteaudemer, Normandy, France1 
Marriage* Principal=Roger I de Montgomery2 
Death*after 1068 1 

Family

Roger I de Montgomery d. b 7 Feb 1056
Children

Last Edited22 Jun 2005

Citations

  1. [S218] Marlyn Lewis, Ancestry of Elizabeth of York.
  2. [S347] Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans, p. 162.

William II Talvas1

M, #3443, d. between 1060 and 1070

Father*William de Talvas1 d. a 1031
Mother*Matilda (?)1
William II Talvas|d. bt 1060 - 1070|p115.htm#i3443|William de Talvas|d. a 1031|p162.htm#i4847|Matilda (?)||p162.htm#i4848|William de Bellême|b. s 963\nd. c 1028|p162.htm#i4853|Mathilda de Condé-sur-Noireau|d. a 1033|p168.htm#i5032|||||||

Marriage* Bride=Hildeburg (?)1,2 
Death*between 1060 and 1070 1 
Death1070 3 
Note* With the aid of William FitzGéré, he recovered his family's possessions which were in alien hands.2 
Event-Misc* William Talvas captured Geoffrey de Mayenne, refusing to release him until the castle of Montaigu in Maine was demolished. This castle belonged to William FitzGéré. After his release, Goeffrey built William another castle on the river Sarthe. Because of this, Talvas invited Fitzgéré to his second wedding, then threw his guest into prison., Principal=Geoffroy II de Mayenne2 
Event-Misc* William was forced into exile by his son Arnulf, Principal=Arnulf de Talvas4 

Family

Hildeburg (?) d. c 1067
Children

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Citations

  1. [S218] Marlyn Lewis, Ancestry of Elizabeth of York.
  2. [S347] Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans, p. 22.
  3. [S168] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots, 185-1.
  4. [S347] Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans, p. 23.

Hildeburg (?)1,2

F, #3444, d. circa 1067

Father*Arnoul (?)1
Hildeburg (?)|d. c 1067|p115.htm#i3444|Arnoul (?)||p162.htm#i4849||||||||||||||||

Marriage* 1st=William II Talvas1,2 
Death*circa 1067 |It is said her husband had her strangled.1,2 

Family

William II Talvas d. bt 1060 - 1070
Children

Last Edited8 May 2005

Citations

  1. [S218] Marlyn Lewis, Ancestry of Elizabeth of York.
  2. [S347] Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans, p. 22.

William FitzRichard1

M, #3445

Family
Child

Last Edited15 May 2005

Citations

  1. [S218] Marlyn Lewis, Ancestry of Elizabeth of York.

Dangerose de l'Isle Bouchard (?)1

F, #3446, b. circa 1080, d. after 1119

Father*Bartholemew de l'Isle Bouchard (?)1 d. a 1097
Mother*Gerberga (?)1
Dangerose de l'Isle Bouchard (?)|b. c 1080\nd. a 1119|p115.htm#i3446|Bartholemew de l'Isle Bouchard (?)|d. a 1097|p115.htm#i3448|Gerberga (?)||p115.htm#i3449|Archambaud (?)|d. 1083|p350.htm#i10480|Agnes de l' Isle-Bouchard|d. a 1140|p350.htm#i10481|||||||

Birth*circa 1080 1 
Marriage* his mistress, Principal=Count William VII of Poitou2 
Marriage*1109 Principal=Viscount Almeric I de Chastellerault1,2 
Death*after 1119 1 

Family

Viscount Almeric I de Chastellerault b. c 1076, d. 7 Nov 1157
Children

Last Edited24 Oct 2003

Citations

  1. [S218] Marlyn Lewis, Ancestry of Elizabeth of York.
  2. [S168] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots, 183-3.
  3. [S232] Don Charles Stone, Ancient and Medieval Descents, 72-12.

Emma de Burgh de Mortaigne1

F, #3447, b. circa 1058, d. after 1080

Father*Robert de Burgo1 b. c 1031, d. 8 Dec 1090
Mother*Maud de Montgomerie1,2
Emma de Burgh de Mortaigne|b. c 1058\nd. a 1080|p115.htm#i3447|Robert de Burgo|b. c 1031\nd. 8 Dec 1090|p115.htm#i3435|Maud de Montgomerie||p115.htm#i3436|Harlowen d. Burgo|b. c 1001\nd. c 1066|p115.htm#i3437|Arlette of Falais|b. c 1003|p60.htm#i1771|Roger de Montgomerie|b. b 1030\nd. 27 Jul 1094|p115.htm#i3438|Mabel Talvas|b. c 1015\nd. 2 Dec 1079|p115.htm#i3439|

Birth*circa 1058 Mortaign, S-Mnch, France1 
Marriage*circa 1071 Principal=William IV of Toulouse1,3,4 
Death*after 1080 1,3 

Family

William IV of Toulouse b. c 1040, d. 1093
Child

Last Edited20 Jan 2005

Citations

  1. [S218] Marlyn Lewis, Ancestry of Elizabeth of York.
  2. [S168] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots, 185-1.
  3. [S168] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots, 185-2.
  4. [S232] Don Charles Stone, Ancient and Medieval Descents, 72-10.
  5. [S232] Don Charles Stone, Ancient and Medieval Descents, 72-11.

Bartholemew de l'Isle Bouchard (?)1

M, #3448, d. after 1097

Father*Archambaud (?)1 d. 1083
Mother*Agnes de l' Isle-Bouchard1 d. a 1140
Bartholemew de l'Isle Bouchard (?)|d. a 1097|p115.htm#i3448|Archambaud (?)|d. 1083|p350.htm#i10480|Agnes de l' Isle-Bouchard|d. a 1140|p350.htm#i10481|||||||Hugues (?)|d. a 1030|p350.htm#i10482||||

Marriage* Principal=Gerberga (?)1 
Death*after 1097 1 

Family

Gerberga (?)
Child

Last Edited24 Oct 2003

Citations

  1. [S218] Marlyn Lewis, Ancestry of Elizabeth of York.

Gerberga (?)1

F, #3449

Marriage* Principal=Bartholemew de l'Isle Bouchard (?)1 

Family

Bartholemew de l'Isle Bouchard (?) d. a 1097
Child

Last Edited24 Oct 2003

Citations

  1. [S218] Marlyn Lewis, Ancestry of Elizabeth of York.

Mor O'Brien O'Connor/1

F, #3450, d. 1217

Father*Donnell O'Brien1 d. 1194
Mother*Orlacan MacMorough1
Mor O'Brien O'Connor/|d. 1217|p115.htm#i3450|Donnell O'Brien|d. 1194|p116.htm#i3452|Orlacan MacMorough||p116.htm#i3453|Turlough O'Brien|d. 1167|p116.htm#i3454|Sadb MacGillapatrick||p334.htm#i10003|Dairmait MacMurchada|d. 1 Jan 1171|p101.htm#i3016|Dearvorgala O'Moore|d. 1193|p116.htm#i3456|

Death*1217 1 

Last Edited24 Oct 2003

Citations

  1. [S218] Marlyn Lewis, Ancestry of Elizabeth of York.
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